probably won't make it then, some of us are meeting up on 13th if you are interested in joining us though - from LJ there will hopefully be dizzojay, theYmp, bertee and fleshflutter, plus a few other SPN bods who don't hang on LJ so much. PM me for details if you think you might be able to join us or if you would like to know when the next one is as we try to do this several times a year.